Mythruna

The option x16 when you startup mythruna makes my game immediately crash? is there a way to fix that.

Yeah, don't use x16.  That's an anti-aliasing setting and your card probably doesn't support it with the other things that I'm doing.  Every higher setting slows the graphics down a lot but only marginally improves the visuals.  I run with AA set to "Disabled" personally.

When crashes like this happen they also produce an error log.  In the future, that would be a good thing to post with an error report like this so that we/you can get more info.

I'm jealous of your knowledge...

but yes, as you said anything pretty much slows mythruna down. this is the settings i use (Windows 7):

Screen Size: 800x600;
BBP: 24;
AA: Disabled;
Fullscreen: OFF;
Vsync: OFF;

I can run AA at max on my card so maybe I'll post a side-by-side pic later.

what is AA? xD
(google is not your friend while googling "what is AA")

Anti-Aliasing

Some comparison shots.  Note: the JPG conversion has "smoothed" some of the AA=Disabled pics but I think the difference is still kind of apparent.  I can probably post the original PNGs somewhere but it's a pain.

(http://i.imgur.com/BQfMB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c47FM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jJ0zI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4Rik6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/02S1d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DyC9d.jpg)

Also note that you should probably view this images full size to get the real effect... maybe open them in two different tabs for easy flipping.

AA smooths the jaggies.  x2 and x4 will do that, too.  Obviously the higher the AA the smoother the jaggies will be... but at an even greater reduced frame rate.  The FPS numbers are there so you can see that it more the halves my raw frame rate.  You can kind of imagine that it's drawing the image bigger than it needs to be and scaling it down... that's not exactly what happens the hardware does it pretty efficiently but it _is_ a lot more work for the GPU.

sorry bout that i forgot to about the error file. And I run some damn resource draining games on my tank PC, so i'm not sure...

In the first one the lighting seemed a little brighter, too. But you may have just taken those at different times.

You just need to think more like the Internet. AA stands for quite a few things, so you google "what is AA gaming." first result? Anti-aliasing.

BTW i love how you had a dirt block at the bottom for all but the last pic haha

The structure in the last two images is the iron smelter.  I had created a blueprints version for exporting so that the town generator could use it.  To do that I had to place an object so I could right click on it to export (it's actually two different objects but I digress).  So when I wanted to take a clean picture of this structure, I had to remove it first and the tool was just still on the object tool.  I took the AA one first in this case.

It seemed like a nice structure to show contrast since I'd put up the black marble backing so that I could take a screen cap of it to use as the smelter icon in the global resource/ai-tester app.

i wish i had your fps

It is a very good pic. So the smelter is for looks..? or will be functional after physics is applied.

I'm going to have to go reply in the AI-tester post cuz i can't figure out how to do anything with it...

The smelter will be functional when crafting is added.  It will be required to turn iron ore into iron ingots.

Good thats what i thought... Anything you can see from the error file?

I need to stop being on these forums... I'm getting myself all excited too early.

From the error file: "Failed to find ARB pixel format 1 0"

Looks like for whatever reasons, those settings and what I'm trying to send to the card don't work for x16.  I'm not really sure why.  Unfortunately, this is not something that I can easily detect and if I could it's not something I can easily remove from that option drop down right now.

You probably should..
what is Vsync? it gives me ultimate lag.

Vertical Sync, basically syncs the frame-rate with your Monitor's Framerate. (Which is usually 60Hz, sometimes you could have 120-160Hz. Remember, Hz is basically FPS if you wanted to know that) Most of the time, It decreases FPS trying to sync, but also prevents screen ripping, when the monitor doesn't update the pixels with what's going on with the screen in-time. I keep It off for max framerate.

Moonkey has it right.  If you weren't getting at least 60 FPS before then it can actually slow you down more.  For example, if you were consistently getting 50 FPS before turning on vsync then it could drop to 45 or even 30 depending on why it was lagging.  If it takes longer to draw a single frame than 1/60 th of a second then it will skip a second one trying to finish.

well yea, I have an FPS on mythruna of anywhere around 10-30. I used to get 20-40, but I don't know what happened. any way to increase fps?

Buying a faster computer would help.

...I'm not being very helpful.. :P

Yes, but I did not buy it. I got this laptop December 25, 2011. I don't think im getting a new one any time soon ;)

Undo what you did to make is slower? ;)

You probably already know all of the ways to make it faster and the methods have been discussed here a few times already.  F8, F12, /flora low, etc.

What settings do you use when you run?  Maybe you changed something there and forgot.

nah, i didn't change anything. But i did download items and filled my disk space a bit. It slowly built down. its kind of consistent now from 10-30 for 1-2 months.

Size: 800x600;
BPP: 24;
AA: Disabled;
Fullscreen: OFF;
VSync: OFF;

Try 300x120. xD

800x600 is client size, I should've made that more clear.

I'm very aware of that. My older laptop could have a resolution of 1920x1600 - 320x120. It supported so many resolutions :).