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[caesar]

Hey Paul,

I don't know if you have this already in mind:
(Sorry for talking about MC again) if you want to connect 2 doors to 1 button you have to do some redstone wireing what takes a lot of room.
It would be 1000% better if you could script that. So you make an activator (switch, button, hitbox, activation box (wich is not visible in the actual game only while in 'script-builder-mode'), trapwire, whatever) and tell the game what to when activated. E.g. open these 2 doors, activate the lights and play a sound. That would give you almost unlimited powers of creating locations, adventure dungeons, etc. and the best thing: no shitty visible wirestuff.
Just think of working light switches, huge towngates, trapdoors, hidden passages behind bookshelfs and whatnot.
That has to be simple to script as the builders should be able to handle that.
Have you ever used a modding tool? In the GECK (Fallout 3) you can place activators and tell them with a very basic script what to do. It would be an extremely awesome feature being able to do that in a running game! And something never done before as far as I know.

Thats different from the idea of making own commands (like your tp command) in my opinion.

[pspeed]

The current plan is to do this stuff without scripts but with the "magic electronics".

I also hate visible redstone... so don't worry, it won't be like that at all.  Besides, the electronics will be small components that could plug right into the door or lock or whatever.

Players should be able to make all of this stuff in game... and scripting in game is a real pain.  I used to play old text MUDs that supported that kind of thing and they were a real pain.  And that was already a text-based interface.

[caesar]

Sounds good.
You are right, it has to be as simple as possible. As always you will have to find a way between simplicity and features.
I'm not sure how your magical plug-in devices will work. If you start concepting it please let me know, I'm very interested in that feature.

[randomprofile]

Are we talking about something like lua? Because it would be great if lua was already implemented into the game, because alot of server owners use lua for other games like Gmod... and... Minecraft (There's a Server Mod)

[pspeed]

Mythruna can use any JSR-223 compatible scripting engine but the extra API goodies I've been writing have all been in Groovy.  It's a very nice scripting language especially for us Java folks.

According to google, there is a JSR-223 compatible lua binding but it uses native code so may have some overhead.  I mean, any scripting language is going to have overhead so that doesn't worry me but one of the nice things about lua on the C side is how fast it is but called from Java it's probably on relatively level footing with something like JavaScript or Groovy.

I like Groovy because I can redefine some language elements to make it easier to do certain things... ie: customize the language a little.  And because it's essentially Java otherwise it is easy for me to learn.

[randomprofile]

Possible to make your own script? Like lua? but call it mythcode or something?

[pspeed]

Heheh... I'm not going to write my own when there is a perfectly awesome one (groovy) already written that lets me tweak it to feel like my own.

[randomprofile]

But it would be sooo much cooler that way D:

[Atlas]

I agree, SleeperCell, it would be REALLY awesome if Paul wrote his own script.

[pspeed]

Just wait... groovy is very powerful.  I would never in my right mind write my own scripting language these days with all of the really excellent options out there... and groovy is so customizable that I can make it feel custom anyway.

[pspeed]

Flipping this around the other way...

What features would you like to see in a scripting engine?  What is your motivation behind having me write a custom one for mythruna?

[Atlas]

Yea, you should keep Groovy, but I'm saying that it'd be pretty awesome for the games publicity, once you want it.
And I dunno, haven't thought of that.

[pspeed]

Well, since I'm customizing the Groovy through operator overloading and clever mix-ins... perhaps when it's done we can say that it's "Mythruna-script (based on Groovy)".

[caesar]

erm his own scripting engine?
Let Paul use his time to implement awesome feature, not inventing the wheel a second time

What I have in mind for a scripting engine is:
- npcs -> e.g. dialogs, behaviour, quests
- buttons/switches -> e.g. open door + enable lights + play music
- triggers -> e.g. player walks through a invisible box and triggers a trap like a stepwire
- commands -> teleport, rename location, chat, sell/buy stuff and so on

[pspeed]

Yeah, I was mainly speaking syntactically.

Of your bullets, all will be possible... and hopefully some will be buildable by players in-game without scripting at all.  Of course, scripting is still an option.