Mythruna

Minecraft gives me a headache anyways, if they removed that shake when you walk and improved a few things, it wouldn't. I also hope a plane like mod would be here on launch, I'd be very happy if so. :)

What do you mean "plane like mod"?

There's a Minecraft mod where you can use blocks and turn them into planes. :) And fly them.

I also hope you remember me. :) I offered to help program, via your fanpage on Facebook.

You can already fly around though it's not perfect.  It's kind of an exploit at the moment. :)

Build an object big enough to hold yourself.  Make it physical.  Stand on it and then pick it up and drag it.

I've made some boats that I use to fly all over the world. :)

There will be real flying someday, though.  Airships, etc.

Minecraft is a fairly premature game, I take it you'll make this game more developed and constantly update it?

That's the idea.  I also want to actually foster a modding community from the beginning rather than requiring people to hack the game to add stuff.  To the extent that someday I'd even like to setup the site for people to upload and share their mods... perhaps letting them charge for them if they want to.  Sort of a mythruna app store.  An easy place to go to get add ons that are "ready to go".

I'm trying to make a game that I can play too.  Randomly generated worlds is one part of the... getting to play other peoples' adventure packs, cities, towns, lands, etc. will be another.

About the planes mod... Mythruna is 5 leagues away from being modded into something that MOVES blocks in different angles (Unless you want to staple tables,chairs and beds together when Paul comes out with the physics update). So don't get your hopes up now. The modding community is currently... Smaller than 10. xD

Just to clarify: the current object support can move objects at any angle.  It's only the user interface that locks them into a fixed up axis.

With the next update, it will even be possible to create objects (through scripts, not in game) at any scale.

I shall create a Giant Boulder then and let it roll down a hill on someone. Or add rockets onto a table and... Why do I have a feeling this is turning into Gmod  ;D

i found out about an MC mod that gives you the ability to make smaller blocks, like this game. i can't wait to play this game. it looks like a great idea to play. it may just rival Minecraft. i hope it can run well on a 516 MB ram computer. i have to use an ubuntu computer.

Can you place them anywhere or only on the "grid" where other blocks go?

In Mythruna, these are separate objects that can be placed anywhere... and sometime soon they will even act "physically":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ4t5ltNCv0

It might run ok on a 516 MB computer if you keep the clip short.  You might be able to run it at the default 128 meter clip if you tweak the startup settings in the .sh file.

lets hope. i haven't used the little blocks mod, myself, so i don't know for sure how it works. how do you keep the clip short?

F12 controls the clip distance.  It starts at 128 meters and can be extended to 160 and 192 before jumping down to 64.

I ran in JVM default memory settings for a long time at 128 clip... so it might work for you.  But since you say you'll be running on linux, it would be easy to tweak the settings in the starup .sh file to lower the max direct memory and max memory to something more reasonable.  Or you could try removing those options completely and seeing how well it runs with default settings.

Though, I will say, that having only 512 meg of RAM doesn't bode well for the power of your machine in general.

...it might not end up being RAM that holds you back.

Paul, the mod for minecraft with tiny blocks is called "LittleBlocksMod". You can place blocks like 1/80th the size of normal blocks. Add a doorbell and it probably will only take up one block of space. And some mods already add physics, but you can't fling things around. Only tornadoes,volcano's and stuff in the mods can toss blocks around to look like they're moving (in all kinds of directions). On www.Minecraftforum.net (http://www.Minecraftforum.net) They have a full section for mods, they add items, and nearly anything really. Flying planes, New mobs, even bosses. Lol... Notch just gave 3 million dollars to his 25 employees. Generosity ftw!

I would love to mod for Mythruna
If only I knew java!

-I have an old Dell Inspiron with a 1.6 ghz single core processor, 512 mb of RAM, and a 128 mb Radeon card and I got to the loading screen before getting an error log. I didn't expect it to work but it was worth a try.   8)

If you post the error log then maybe there is something to see.  Maybe.

i tried to install on my ubuntu computer, but as soon as i select the settings it prompts you to set, the game starts at a black screen. then it closes after about 5 seconds. any help? proper settings, maybe?

Check for an error log in the directory where you ran it.

Without seeing that, I can only guess.  Standard stuff: leave AA set to "Disabled" in the settings dialog (apparently people compulsively set it high for some reason).  And make sure your display drivers up to date.

What graphics card do you have?

Hey paul... just a random idea: Make an automated error log reporter which sends the errorlog named "<playername>.txt" which is then saved in some location of your choice... to which you can then look at if that player has a problem bu simply fails to figure out how to upload the file them selfs :(

PS. I could code it for you using AU3 :D

Yeah, I think about it every 3 or 4 days.  It still boils down to more work than just telling people where to find the error logs.

There has to be a user interface to let them opt out... probably also show them the error and what info is included.  Then I have to handle the case where the posting of the error throws an error, etc..

Here's the log:

Uncaught exception from thread:Thread[LWJGL Renderer Thread,5,main]
com.jme3.renderer.RendererException: non-power-of-2 framebuffer textures are not supported by the video hardware
   at com.jme3.renderer.lwjgl.LwjglRenderer.updateTexImageData(LwjglRenderer.java:1830)
   at com.jme3.renderer.lwjgl.LwjglRenderer.updateRenderTexture(LwjglRenderer.java:1398)
   at com.jme3.renderer.lwjgl.LwjglRenderer.updateFrameBufferAttachment(LwjglRenderer.java:1421)
   at com.jme3.renderer.lwjgl.LwjglRenderer.updateFrameBuffer(LwjglRenderer.java:1452)
   at com.jme3.renderer.lwjgl.LwjglRenderer.setFrameBuffer(LwjglRenderer.java:1539)
   at com.jme3.renderer.RenderManager.renderViewPort(RenderManager.java:1109)
   at com.jme3.renderer.RenderManager.render(RenderManager.java:1174)
   at com.jme3.app.SimpleApplication.update(SimpleApplication.java:253)
   at com.jme3.system.lwjgl.LwjglAbstractDisplay.runLoop(LwjglAbstractDisplay.java:149)
   at com.jme3.system.lwjgl.LwjglDisplay.runLoop(LwjglDisplay.java:182)
   at com.jme3.system.lwjgl.LwjglAbstractDisplay.run(LwjglAbstractDisplay.java:223)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Build version:20120224

Memory usage:
Working memory: 80% (10588488/13139968)  VM Max: 2% (10588488/518979584)

Rendering caps:
    FrameBuffer
    OpenGL20
    ARBprogram
    GLSL100
    GLSL110

Statistics:
  Vertices = 0
  Triangles = 0
  Uniforms = 0
  Objects = 0
  Shaders (S) = 0
  Shaders (F) = 0
  Shaders (M) = 0
  Textures (S) = 1
  Textures (F) = 1
  Textures (M) = 1
  FrameBuffers (S) = 0
  FrameBuffers (F) = 0
  FrameBuffers (M) = 1
Application settings:
UseInput = true

Its graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700

Errorception :O

Yeah, unfortunately that's a non-starter.  Right now Mythruna cannot support cards without non-power-of-2 support because of the post processing filters (and probably a few other things).

I could make a GUI, and a user interface... first-time-mythruna-start asks them if they want to opt out...      or even put it into the launcher...

**EDIT**
On second thought I'm not the best programmer out there... infact I was trying to code a compressor today, that simply looks at the first 2 characters and tries to find more copies. If it finds any it then replaces every occurrence with ONE character. It then reads the next two characters and does the same thing... so one would think the size of the file would decrease a little over half... but my awesome coding skills made it double :D

Compression is tricky.  Lempel-ziv (lzh) compression works similar to that.  It writes out a bit stream that starts at 9 bits or something.  If the 9th bit is set then it's a lookup into the table.  If it's not then it's a regular byte and it adds that and the previous value (which was an index into the table) to the table for next time.  So the lookup table is built on the fly and eventually has a reference for every unique sequence encountered.  But you have to be really comfortable reading and writing data in bit streams.  Not for the faint of heart. :)

Even still, lzh can make files larger if they are sufficiently random.  It works well for text where you often have the same sequences of bytes over and over.

It's nice that in Java I almost never have to worry about this anymore as they have GZip, etc. built right in.  I did write my own run-length encoder for the terrain data, though.

Well... I got a 30KB exe to compress to 15kb... while winrar only got it to 23KB However my new compression method takes forever to compress because it's coded in a poor language... and I don't know C++ enough to be able to rewrite it :(

the graphics card i have is nvidea gforce. as soon as i can, i will get the error logs.