Mythruna

General Category => Tech Support => Topic started by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 11:54:26 AM



Title: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 11:54:26 AM
I would like to have permission to fiddle with the scripting of mythruna. I am still currently learning it.

If you say "yes": may you tell me where the scripting is for connecting to multi-player so i can disable it?

PS: can you tell me of a good site to learn advanced javascript? I am currently learning it from http://W3Schools.com


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
I would like to have permission to fiddle with the scripting of mythruna. I am still currently learning it.

If you say "yes": may you tell me where the scripting is for connecting to multi-player so i can disable it?

PS: can you tell me of a good site to learn advanced javascript? I am currently learning it from http://W3Schools.com

The scripting is in groovy.

Why do you want to disable multiplayer?


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: pspeed
The scripting is in groovy
What do you mean by that?

Quote from: pspeed
Why do you want to disable multiplayer?
I would just download another mythruna file, to change the scripting, so no point in multi-player.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: pspeed
The scripting is in groovy
What do you mean by that?

Groovy is a scripting language.  All of Mythruna's scripting (the parts that are scriptable) is written in Groovy.

Quote from: pspeed
Why do you want to disable multiplayer?
I would just download another mythruna file, to change the scripting, so no point in multi-player.

I don't even think you understand what you are saying.  Why would you want to take the "Multiplayer" option out of the menus?  I can see no purpose this serves to remove something for no good reason.

Anyway, it's not easily done through scripts.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 12:37:19 PM
I havent heard of Groovy, so i searched how many scripting languages there were, and i was in total shock ._.
are you able to provide a site that gives a free tutorial on groovy? and may i see a line of code?


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 01:27:23 PM
I havent heard of Groovy, so i searched how many scripting languages there were, and i was in total shock ._.
are you able to provide a site that gives a free tutorial on groovy? and may i see a line of code?

First hit on google:
http://groovy.codehaus.org/


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 01:59:49 PM
do i have to download groovy? if not what is the download for?


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
do i have to download groovy? if not what is the download for?

I think this is probably too hard for you.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Thanos on August 01, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
do i have to download groovy? if not what is the download for?

take a look at those (http://mythruna.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0) threads. You dont have to download anything, scripting is done via mythruna's console but I never had the time to investigate this further. Seems a little difficult.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
do i have to download groovy? if not what is the download for?

take a look at those (http://mythruna.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0) threads. You dont have to download anything, scripting is done via mythruna's console but I never had the time to investigate this further. Seems a little difficult.

The console is a nice way to test them but you don't have to write them that way.  But you are right that you need to understand something about programming for it all to make sense.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
I didnt plan on using it yet, i plan on finish learning all of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. (If there are others I should learn before i start Groovy, please tell me)


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 01, 2012, 06:27:28 PM
I didnt plan on using it yet, i plan on finish learning all of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. (If there are others I should learn before i start Groovy, please tell me)

HTML and CSS are not programming languages so they won't help at all, really.  They may be useful to learn for other reasons unrelated to Mythruna modding.

JavaScript is the closest since it's an actual programming language.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2012, 09:09:49 PM
I didnt plan on using it yet, i plan on finish learning all of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. (If there are others I should learn before i start Groovy, please tell me)

HTML and CSS are not programming languages so they won't help at all, really.  They may be useful to learn for other reasons unrelated to Mythruna modding.

JavaScript is the closest since it's an actual programming language.
I mentioned HTML and CSS because at W3Schools they say you need to understand them to learn javascript.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Moonkey on August 02, 2012, 04:49:07 AM
Really? My older brother has a "Java" book and you don't need to know HTML or CSS to learn it. It's a great book, and it teaches you how to use Java :). I know basic code for Java type stuff. (Didn't learn it from the book :)) Like,

setPos(1, 5, 8);
or
ifEntity1Pos = (1, 6, 8): setEntity2Pos(2, 6, 9);

Or something like that... :D.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: BenKenobiWan on August 02, 2012, 09:50:17 AM
You have FBI Agents in your code, Moonkey. :P


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 02, 2012, 10:03:43 AM
Really? My older brother has a "Java" book and you don't need to know HTML or CSS to learn it. It's a great book, and it teaches you how to use Java :). I know basic code for Java type stuff. (Didn't learn it from the book :)) Like,

setPos(1, 5, 8);
or
ifEntity1Pos = (1, 6, 8): setEntity2Pos(2, 6, 9);

Or something like that... :D.
Java and JavaScript are NOT the same thing.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 02, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
You have FBI Agents in your code, Moonkey. :P

LOL.

And note: Java != JavaScript != Groovy... even though parts of them look similar.  Knowing one will help you learn the others but that is not a given.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Moonkey on August 03, 2012, 02:40:38 AM
Z coordinates are always FBI. 8)

Edit: Unnatural, I never said what I typed was Java or Java script. I was just saying I didn't learn it from that book to make it clear. (Note the "Java type stuff" :))

Edit edit: So Java = Groovy in certain ways?


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 03, 2012, 10:49:57 AM
Edit edit: So Java = Groovy in certain ways?

They share some syntax... as does JavaScript.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: ahmadsal on August 03, 2012, 04:03:35 PM
java and javascript are pretty similar. You usually use java in a program because it is more intensive and javascript in website (thus html/css) to run little codes since html/css cannot run codes.

The thing about java, javascript, and groovy is that they are all object oriented. You aren't telling the computer to do this and that but setting up object-type-things and give them properties and through them you can tell the computer what to do. Obviously this is very basic and I only touched on java but this should gets things in a rough order.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: pspeed on August 03, 2012, 07:11:27 PM
Java is strongly typed and JavaScript and Groovy are dynamically typed and so are a little easier on beginners.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 03, 2012, 07:29:18 PM
What should i use for programming at my age ??? Java or Groovy?  :-\ or not those then what?


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: ahmadsal on August 03, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
Since I just finished high school, I can tell you what people have been studying. C++ is the most common beginner code, since it places a strong foundation and isn't very hard to program simple things. You learning html and css is good but understand that these aren't programming codes but instead website codes. Java is also studied early but usually those people say it does not make since so if you want to learn it, be sure to learn the base thoroughly because you need some knowledge before you can make a good basic program.

What you should do at your age is understand the boolean language, since that is universal to binary codes (pretty much all). It would make life a lot easier later on understanding how to make code flow to an end efficiently. I'de say javascript isn't necessary right now unless you want to make website or browser extensions/mods or if you are working on specific website things....


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Moonkey on August 04, 2012, 02:19:39 AM
Creating 3D programs take Math. Geometry and the likes. At your age, it would be pretty hard... Maybe studying could help.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Michael on August 04, 2012, 11:45:53 AM
lol thats what i do  ;)
I cannot live life w/out learning  :( I feel like a lowlife in the summer cuz i dont have anything good to do.


Title: Re: May I Fiddle with Mythruna?
Post by: Moonkey on August 05, 2012, 01:15:12 PM
What I do in the summer: Play games. xD. Or become interested in Space and play space games like Space Engine and explore these awesome planets :D