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« on: April 10, 2013, 12:09:49 PM »

Already posted this as a reply to another topic on connection issues, but I figured I'd better make a brand new topic, so here goes:

After getting disconnected from the server today, I can't get back on.
Whenever I try to login, it gives me the following message:

"Login failed

Client is not recieving UDP messages from the server.
Please make sure that UDP port 4234 is not blocked
[OK] "

I've made sure that I have the right port open in the firewall setting, but the problem still occurs.
Have there been any updates?

Sorry you are having trouble.

The real issue is that MS Windows sucks and so I must kill and restart the process every so often to reset the networking, apparently.
MS Windows sucks
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 09:57:35 PM »

A note: Dell computers are extra reliable. My dad leaves his on 24/7 and never has a problem. We were able to afford a touch-screen screen computer. (no tower). The resolution is ginormous, and it's processor is phenomenal. (The res is around 3000x2000 and the processor is either an i3 or an i5 at around 3.0 ghz.) It's fun to use the touch-screen on. We even tried windows 8 on it since 8 supports touch screen. Fuuun
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 10:44:47 PM »

A note: Dell computers are extra reliable. My dad leaves his on 24/7 and never has a problem. We were able to afford a touch-screen screen computer. (no tower). The resolution is ginormous, and it's processor is phenomenal. (The res is around 3000x2000 and the processor is either an i3 or an i5 at around 3.0 ghz.) It's fun to use the touch-screen on. We even tried windows 8 on it since 8 supports touch screen. Fuuun

I build my own computers.  This is not a hardware issue but a "Windows Sucks" issue.  The hardware is cranking away like a champ running a horrible operating system.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 03:47:56 PM »

A note: Dell computers are extra reliable. My dad leaves his on 24/7 and never has a problem. We were able to afford a touch-screen screen computer. (no tower). The resolution is ginormous, and it's processor is phenomenal. (The res is around 3000x2000 and the processor is either an i3 or an i5 at around 3.0 ghz.) It's fun to use the touch-screen on. We even tried windows 8 on it since 8 supports touch screen. Fuuun

I build my own computers.  This is not a hardware issue but a "Windows Sucks" issue.  The hardware is cranking away like a champ running a horrible operating system.
So, it's the OS designer's problem, not the fantastic hardware designer's problem?
Edit: It's the Window's update designer's problem* hahaha
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 04:13:49 PM »

A note: Dell computers are extra reliable. My dad leaves his on 24/7 and never has a problem. We were able to afford a touch-screen screen computer. (no tower). The resolution is ginormous, and it's processor is phenomenal. (The res is around 3000x2000 and the processor is either an i3 or an i5 at around 3.0 ghz.) It's fun to use the touch-screen on. We even tried windows 8 on it since 8 supports touch screen. Fuuun

I build my own computers.  This is not a hardware issue but a "Windows Sucks" issue.  The hardware is cranking away like a champ running a horrible operating system.
So, it's the OS designer's problem, not the fantastic hardware designer's problem?
Edit: It's the Window's update designer's problem* hahaha

Having built in excess of 30 computers in my lifetime, I have trouble seeing how the hardware could be responsible for the windows desktop crashing while everything else works fine.  Meanwhile, I have other computers that I've built that run Linux and measure up time in years.  The last time I had to reboot my main server was when the power went out from a hurricane.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2013, 04:40:22 PM »

I thought linux was going to look different than Windows but it just reminds me of Windows XP/2000.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2013, 04:49:35 PM »

I thought linux was going to look different than Windows but it just reminds me of Windows XP/2000.

My server looks like this:

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 04:51:32 PM »

And I can almost guess the desktop you were using, too.  Smiley

Linux doesn't "look" a particular way since you can put any number of window managers on it that significantly change how it works.  KDE is like Windows.  Gnome is like a Mac... etc.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 06:25:57 PM »

And I can almost guess the desktop you were using, too.  Smiley

Linux doesn't "look" a particular way since you can put any number of window managers on it that significantly change how it works.  KDE is like Windows.  Gnome is like a Mac... etc.
I am actually a recent convert to Linux, from Windows. I realized my silliness when I read "In The Beginning... Was The Command Line" by Neal Stephenson. Fascinating read, if a bit outdated.

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 07:15:46 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 08:02:39 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..

I haven't switched yet, I just really want to.

I'll probably go with a dual-boot for a while so I can pick my way through the textbook I got from the library, then fully switch once I know my way around.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 08:04:21 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..

I don't want too... you can't play every game on Linux can you? D:... Plus, I'm used to Windows. Windows are for gamers, that's who I am. I invented gaming, so Paul, give credit where credit is due.
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 08:09:27 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..

I haven't switched yet, I just really want to.

I'll probably go with a dual-boot for a while so I can pick my way through the textbook I got from the library, then fully switch once I know my way around.

Maybe start with a VM in VirtualBox or something.  Then you can wipe it and start over, roll  back to previous versions, try out different distors in parallel, whatever...
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2013, 08:09:56 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..

I don't want to... you can't play every game on Linux can you? D:... Plus, I'm used to Windows. Windows are for gamers, that's who I am. I invented gaming, so Paul, give credit where credit is due.
Windows is an unreliable operating system, sold on an outdated concept that only survives because of peer pressure, branding, and fear. Linux is more reliable, has more options, etc.

Rumor has it you can run any .exe on Linux using programs like Wine (Windows emulator, basically). I haven't had such luck yet, though.

If you use your OS as a way to relate to your computer; a way to control it, Linux is better. If you use your computer to show you pictures of a controllable world (games), there's no especial need to switch from Windows.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2013, 08:12:44 PM »

im scared to switch to Linux..

I haven't switched yet, I just really want to.

I'll probably go with a dual-boot for a while so I can pick my way through the textbook I got from the library, then fully switch once I know my way around.

Maybe start with a VM in VirtualBox or something.  Then you can wipe it and start over, roll  back to previous versions, try out different distros in parallel, whatever...
I'm actually using VirtualBox to run the really old version of Red Hat that came with the textbook, but I haven't yet succeeded in running a Debian ISO.
Soon I'll have more free time to mess around with it.
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