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Author Topic: Electric car using its own momentum to generate electricity.  (Read 105081 times)
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« on: April 09, 2012, 06:18:29 PM »

Ok. My dad has known for awhile now how to make a pure electric car generate its own electricity through its transmission, and the rolling of its tires. So think of electricity in gallons: 100's of miles per gallon. He's not motivated enough to do it though, he thinks he can't do it right. I still have faith (He runs a small shop in our yard and has worked on cars for a big amount of his life. He has no employees and is a 1 man worker. Very honest man in his work.) So what do you think guys? The future is becoming brighter for the cars, If my dad is up for the task.

Edit: I'm not trolling around, I'm not kidding. I'm being serious.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 06:27:58 PM »

You have to put energy into the system somewhere.  It can't be created from nothing.  You only get the amount of work out of it equivalent to the energy put into it unless you find a way to break the laws of physics.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 06:33:41 PM »

Yeah... damn those laws of physics... you might be able to get some of the engergy back. But no where near the ammount to create even somewhat propetral motion.

I've had an idea somewhat like this.
I'll post a diagram later typing from in game righht now Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 07:59:59 PM »

I think most electric cars now recover energy from breaking... or at least that technology has been around and understood for like 20 years.  It's the only time you can recover energy without putting a drag on the engine and end up sapping more power than you create.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 08:15:36 PM »

I don't know the exact details of how it works. You don't gain an infinite amount of energy but think: Perpetual energy.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 08:25:12 PM »


Tada...
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 08:28:32 PM »

I don't know the exact details of how it works. You don't gain an infinite amount of energy but think: Perpetual energy.

For an "engine" in the general "physics" sense of something that performs work:

Energy Output = Energy Input * Efficiency

...where efficiency is some value between 0 and 1 (exclusive).  Efficiency can never be 1.

If you can manage to break that equation then you've developed perpetual motion... which is impossible because of that equation.

Oh, and depending on how you break that law, you might get anti-gravity, too.

At best, you can recover wasted energy by applying generators to slow the car during breaking or coasting down hill.  Otherwise, it's like trying to charge one battery with another battery and hoping to keep both batteries charged.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 08:28:47 PM »


Tada...
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Many mistakes with this. You can't generate solar energy through a light. This type of thing has already been made into flash lights too Smiley .
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 08:30:04 PM »

Lol... you can use a solar panel on a basic bulb light in your house...
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 08:30:25 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure solar panels are even up to 50% efficiency yet... and that's for direct sunlight.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 08:30:50 PM »

Lol... you can use a solar panel on a basic bulb light in your house...

But it will not generate enough power to power the light bulb.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 08:32:01 PM »

Stupid human's relying on non renewable resources to power the world  -.-
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2012, 08:33:49 PM »

Also the point of the mirrors is to store the light energy
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »

Here is a thought experiment for you:

Take a model car with an electric motor on the back wheels and a generate on the front wheels.  The generator on the front wheels will not produce enough power to run the motor at the back.

"Well, we could gear up the generator to run double fast", you might say.

But then you've now also doubled the drag that the generator imposes... requiring the back motor to work harder to push the car forward.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2012, 08:34:48 PM »

Also the point of the mirrors is to store the light energy

Mirrors don't store energy.
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